Posts by Justitia Themis

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Ban on Jeans , T-Shirts & Shorts after the Convention

by dozy in

jw
friends

apr km insert.

"even during leisure time , such as when going out to eat after the programme , we should dress as befits ministers... and should not wear such clothing as jeans , shorts or t-shirts.

what a witness this will give to the community.".

Justitia Themis

They are becoming more strict, not less, strict with clothing. Years ago (early 70s) when I was a teenager, our family toured Bethel as part of group from our congregation. ALL the sisters, including myself, wore "pantsuits." No one thought anything of it. I heard that now sisters have to wear dresses to tour Bethel.

About two years ago, a friend of mine was a bridesmaid for a sister at Patterson. My friend stayed at the Patterson "hotel" facility. She had just arrived, unpacked, and was getting ready to leave her room (in jeans) when she noticed a sign saying that sisters had to wear dresses at all times. She had not anticipated this, and she had packed only a couple of dresses for meeting, which left her with perhaps two outfits to wear since she packed mostly pants. She is a very loyal sister, but boy was she TICKED OFF!!!!!!

The annoucement is correct in one aspect however. The community WILL notice, and they will NOT be attracted to JWs. It will simply make us look more strange.

Justitia

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Defending WT changing Doctrines

by stillajwexelder in

ok - dont shout at me -but i know that archaeologists will change a theory based on a new find.

so will historains.

so will scientists.

Justitia Themis

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g704/22p.8ChangesThatDisturbPeople***

Changes

ThatDisturbPeople

THE churches are in rapid decline. Even in the United States, where religion still enjoys perhaps the greatest popularity, nearly three out of four persons polled said that it is losing influence. Why is there this decline in religion?

One of the reasons is that people are disturbed by what is happening in their churches. Yes, millions of persons have been shocked to learn that things they were taught as being vital for salvation are now considered by their church to be wrong. Have you, too, felt discouragement, or even despair, because of what is happening in your church? A businessman in Medellín, Colombia, expressed the effect the changes have had on many.

"Tell me," he asked, "how can I have confidence in anything? How can I believe in the Bible, in God, or have faith? Just ten years ago we Catholics had the absolute truth, we put all our faith in this. Now the pope and our priests are telling us this is not the way to believe any more, but we are to believe ‘new things.’ How do I know the ‘new things’ will be the truth in five years?"

What are some of these changes that disturb people?

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Growth and Decline in churches incl. JWs

by Dogpatch in

jw
friends

yearbook of churches issues 75th editionhttp://www.wfn.org/2007/03/msg00069.html.

from "ncc news" <[email protected]>.

date mon, 05 mar 2007 15:00:19 -0500. .

Justitia Themis

Dear Mr. Sagan:

I agree with you that JWs are "bleeding-out," but Joker10 was appropriate in pointing out a gross error. Raw data, which it appears this Yearbook is comparing, shows an increase. What I think is interesting is that we are now # 25; last year we were #24, and as you note, the net increase is paltry because of so many people leaving.

Here are last years numbers: http://www.ncccusa.org/news/050330yearbook.html

Justitia

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Growth and Decline in churches incl. JWs

by Dogpatch in

jw
friends

yearbook of churches issues 75th editionhttp://www.wfn.org/2007/03/msg00069.html.

from "ncc news" <[email protected]>.

date mon, 05 mar 2007 15:00:19 -0500. .

Justitia Themis

Mr. Jenks response to my email regarding the increase/decrease discrepancy.

My typo – and sincere apologies. I’ll make the correction on our Web page and subsequent stories.

Philip E. Jenks

Director of Interpretation

National Council of Churches USA

212-870-2252

Justitia

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April 15 WT: Society acknowledges some find its teachings hard to accept

by truthseeker in

jw
friends

the april 15, 2007 watchtower revolves around the congregation, it's benefits and requirements.. the second study article is let the congregation be built up.

under the subheading sticking with the congregation the society acknowledges those who cannot accept a certain teaching even after doing research in their publications.. .

para 14 consider another possibility involving the congregation.

Justitia Themis

"We should always be disposed to believe that that which appears white is really black, if the hierarchy of the Church so decides." St. Ignatius of Loyola

Justitia

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Who Is Johannes Greber Anyway?? What is the Society hiding???

by Lady Liberty in

for those of you who have no idea who i am talking about i invite you to take a moment and find out how this person played a part in the translation of john 1:1 for the new world translation.

regardless of wether you believe in the trinity or not, you will certainly be shocked and disgusted at where the society quotes from this source.. just thought you oughta know!!.

http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/who_is_greber.htm.

Justitia Themis

This is what I found on the CD-rom regarding Mr. Greber.

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w834/1p.31QuestionsFromReaders***

Questions

FromReaders

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Why,inrecentyears,hasTheWatchtowernotmadeuseofthetranslationbytheformerCatholicpriest,JohannesGreber?

This translation was used occasionally in support of renderings of Matthew 27:52, 53 and John 1:1, as given in the NewWorldTranslation and other authoritative Bible versions. But as indicated in a foreword to the 1980 edition of TheNewTestament by Johannes Greber, this translator relied on "God’s Spirit World" to clarify for him how he should translate difficult passages. It is stated: "His wife, a medium of God’s Spiritworld was often instrumental in conveying the correct answers from God’s Messengers to Pastor Greber." TheWatchtower has deemed it improper to make use of a translation that has such a close rapport with spiritism. (Deuteronomy 18:10-12) The scholarship that forms the basis for the rendering of the above-cited texts in the NewWorldTranslation is sound and for this reason does not depend at all on Greber’s translation for authority. Nothing is lost, therefore, by ceasing to use his NewTestament.

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Jan. 1, 2007 QFR quote re: annointed alive @ GT

by Justitia Themis in

this subject was discussed last week.

i do not know if anyone has posted this information or not.

if they have, please disregard.

Justitia Themis

This subject was discussed last week. I do not know if anyone has posted this information or not. If they have, please disregard.

Question: What is the sealing referred to at Revelation 7:3?

Discusses two phases of sealing, initial and final. The final paragraph states: "When will the remnant of anointed Christians who have initially been sealed receive their final sealing? Any still alive on earth will be sealed "in their forehead" before the outbreak of the great tribulation. When the four winds of tribulation are unleased, all of spiritual Israel will have been sealed in finality, even though a few will still be alive in the flesh and must yet finish their earthly course.

Justitia

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Would Blondie or Mary ever make it as Elders in your old Congregation?

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

we know the wts will never except woman as elders.in the last year as a member of jwd,i have learned more from blondie and mary than any elder in my congregation.all the elders in my congregation look like they go thru the motions.they are more like policy enforcers than teachers.. do you think that by excepting woman, some men would be embarassed to how little they know?

does the wts know some woman would better teachers?

is it more like a men's club?

Justitia Themis

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Sorry...couldn't resist.

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Question for Elders or Ex-Elders re: Marriage

by mya in

i was what you call "born into the truth.

i'm not practicing the religion now and i was never baptized.

my fiance is baptist, we care having his pastor whom i very much like marry us.

Justitia Themis

It really has gotten bad. I attended my good friend's daughter's wedding. Her daughter is almost 30, and though she was baptized at 12 or 13, she stopped attending, became inactive, and married a non-believer. My friend brought some of the wedding pictures to the KH to show people. Some "brothers" and "sisters" complained. The elders asked her to put them away and not show them. ...heavy sigh....

Justitia

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New Light at DC?

by zack in

jw
friends

the gb will announce in a series of talks in two symsposiums that:.

all anointed will die and depart the earthly scene before armageddon.. the resurrected anointed will aid christ in directing all his belongings from heaven.. christ said "i will be with you until the conclusion of the systems of things" and he has done so invisibly; and shortly.

shall come the time for his co-rulers to be gathered to him to rule (just as christ has) invisibly.

Justitia Themis

Paragraph 18:

"Will all the anointed receive their heavenly reward before the war of Armageddon? We do not know...."

Per JWs, there is a pause between the outbreak of the GT and the war of Armageddon. The statement quoted does not address the issue of whether or not the anointed will be present at the outbreak of the GT.

Justitia